

The Crypto Tape
The Crypto Tape
with Frank Chaparro
with Frank Chaparro
The Crypto Tape goes inside the conversations shaping digital finance. Each episode features candid discussions with founders, executives, and market makers at the center of crypto, DeFi, and real-world asset tokenization.
The Crypto Tape goes inside the conversations shaping digital finance. Each episode features candid discussions with founders, executives, and market makers at the center of crypto, DeFi, and real-world asset tokenization.


The Desk
The Desk
with Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer
with Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer
The Desk is GSR’s research-driven podcast that dives into the data underpinning crypto and digital asset markets. Featuring GSR experts alongside leading voices from across the industry, each episode goes beyond the headlines to explore the charts shaping the future of digital assets.
The Desk is GSR’s research-driven podcast that dives into the data underpinning crypto and digital asset markets. Featuring GSR experts alongside leading voices from across the industry, each episode goes beyond the headlines to explore the charts shaping the future of digital assets.
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The Crypto Tape
The Desk

The Desk – Why 63% of Hyperliquid's Volume Isn't Crypto
The Desk Episode 3
Spencer Hallarn, GSR's Global Head of Markets, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer on episode three of The Desk. He explains why RWA perps made up 63% of Hyperliquid volume last week, what Bitcoin's implied volatility sitting in the second percentile of the year means for current conditions, and how retail's appetite for speculation has found a better story in AI and 50x leverage

The Desk – Why 63% of Hyperliquid's Volume Isn't Crypto
The Desk Episode 3
Spencer Hallarn, GSR's Global Head of Markets, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer on episode three of The Desk. He explains why RWA perps made up 63% of Hyperliquid volume last week, what Bitcoin's implied volatility sitting in the second percentile of the year means for current conditions, and how retail's appetite for speculation has found a better story in AI and 50x leverage

The Desk – Why 63% of Hyperliquid's Volume Isn't Crypto
The Desk Episode 3
Spencer Hallarn, GSR's Global Head of Markets, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer on episode three of The Desk. He explains why RWA perps made up 63% of Hyperliquid volume last week, what Bitcoin's implied volatility sitting in the second percentile of the year means for current conditions, and how retail's appetite for speculation has found a better story in AI and 50x leverage

The Transfer-Agent Bet and the Road to Onchain Equities with Carlos Domingo
The Crypto Tape Episode 41
Carlos Domingo, CEO of Securitize, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a grounded look at where tokenization stands today. He explains why tokenization only needs a sliver of the equities market to be transformational, why Securitize's 2019 bet registering as a transfer agent now makes those firms gatekeepers for tokenizing the biggest names, and how the SpaceX IPO-access mess showed the industry the right way to distribute shares.

The Transfer-Agent Bet and the Road to Onchain Equities with Carlos Domingo
The Crypto Tape Episode 41
Carlos Domingo, CEO of Securitize, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a grounded look at where tokenization stands today. He explains why tokenization only needs a sliver of the equities market to be transformational, why Securitize's 2019 bet registering as a transfer agent now makes those firms gatekeepers for tokenizing the biggest names, and how the SpaceX IPO-access mess showed the industry the right way to distribute shares.

The Transfer-Agent Bet and the Road to Onchain Equities with Carlos Domingo
The Crypto Tape Episode 41
Carlos Domingo, CEO of Securitize, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a grounded look at where tokenization stands today. He explains why tokenization only needs a sliver of the equities market to be transformational, why Securitize's 2019 bet registering as a transfer agent now makes those firms gatekeepers for tokenizing the biggest names, and how the SpaceX IPO-access mess showed the industry the right way to distribute shares.

Why Meme Coins Still Beat RWAs On-Chain, with Andy from The Rollup
The Desk Episode 2
Andy, co-founder of The Rollup, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer for episode two of The Desk to explore crypto’s strongest fundamentals story: meme coins and DEXs. They discuss Pump.fun’s resilient revenue, the rise of on-chain real-world asset markets, and Hyperliquid’s growing non-crypto perps. Andy also highlights CXMT’s sharp repricing on Hyperliquid and the shift toward tokenized equity as token floats decline.

Why Meme Coins Still Beat RWAs On-Chain, with Andy from The Rollup
The Desk Episode 2
Andy, co-founder of The Rollup, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer for episode two of The Desk to explore crypto’s strongest fundamentals story: meme coins and DEXs. They discuss Pump.fun’s resilient revenue, the rise of on-chain real-world asset markets, and Hyperliquid’s growing non-crypto perps. Andy also highlights CXMT’s sharp repricing on Hyperliquid and the shift toward tokenized equity as token floats decline.

Why Meme Coins Still Beat RWAs On-Chain, with Andy from The Rollup
The Desk Episode 2
Andy, co-founder of The Rollup, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer for episode two of The Desk to explore crypto’s strongest fundamentals story: meme coins and DEXs. They discuss Pump.fun’s resilient revenue, the rise of on-chain real-world asset markets, and Hyperliquid’s growing non-crypto perps. Andy also highlights CXMT’s sharp repricing on Hyperliquid and the shift toward tokenized equity as token floats decline.

Why Institutions See Bitcoin as a Discounted Asset with Laura Vidiella
The Crypto Tape Episode 40
Laura Vidiella of VanEck joins Frank Chaparro to share what she's hearing from institutional allocators, and why their read on this market looks nothing like the panic in retail. Laura leads investor relations across VanEck's crypto funds, from early-stage venture to liquid strategies. She explains why institutions see Bitcoin as a discounted asset, why 2021 is better understood as R&D money than venture capital, and why October 10 was a lesson in nomenclature, not leverage — plus the fintech, AI, and stablecoins convergence thesis, and VanEck's tokenization roadmap.

Why Institutions See Bitcoin as a Discounted Asset with Laura Vidiella
The Crypto Tape Episode 40
Laura Vidiella of VanEck joins Frank Chaparro to share what she's hearing from institutional allocators, and why their read on this market looks nothing like the panic in retail. Laura leads investor relations across VanEck's crypto funds, from early-stage venture to liquid strategies. She explains why institutions see Bitcoin as a discounted asset, why 2021 is better understood as R&D money than venture capital, and why October 10 was a lesson in nomenclature, not leverage — plus the fintech, AI, and stablecoins convergence thesis, and VanEck's tokenization roadmap.

Why Institutions See Bitcoin as a Discounted Asset with Laura Vidiella
The Crypto Tape Episode 40
Laura Vidiella of VanEck joins Frank Chaparro to share what she's hearing from institutional allocators, and why their read on this market looks nothing like the panic in retail. Laura leads investor relations across VanEck's crypto funds, from early-stage venture to liquid strategies. She explains why institutions see Bitcoin as a discounted asset, why 2021 is better understood as R&D money than venture capital, and why October 10 was a lesson in nomenclature, not leverage — plus the fintech, AI, and stablecoins convergence thesis, and VanEck's tokenization roadmap.

The Fragmentation Myth and Onchain Prime Brokerage with Ian de Bode
The Crypto Tape Episode 39
Ian de Bode, CEO and President of Ondo Finance, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss how tokenization is bringing traditional financial assets onchain. With ~$4B in TVL across tokenized treasuries, stocks, and ETFs, Ian shares his view on global access to US capital markets, liquidity concerns around tokenized equities, and the collateral challenges keeping perps from broader institutional adoption.

The Fragmentation Myth and Onchain Prime Brokerage with Ian de Bode
The Crypto Tape Episode 39
Ian de Bode, CEO and President of Ondo Finance, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss how tokenization is bringing traditional financial assets onchain. With ~$4B in TVL across tokenized treasuries, stocks, and ETFs, Ian shares his view on global access to US capital markets, liquidity concerns around tokenized equities, and the collateral challenges keeping perps from broader institutional adoption.

The Fragmentation Myth and Onchain Prime Brokerage with Ian de Bode
The Crypto Tape Episode 39
Ian de Bode, CEO and President of Ondo Finance, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss how tokenization is bringing traditional financial assets onchain. With ~$4B in TVL across tokenized treasuries, stocks, and ETFs, Ian shares his view on global access to US capital markets, liquidity concerns around tokenized equities, and the collateral challenges keeping perps from broader institutional adoption.

How Banks Earn 5% of Your Cash and Pay You Zero with Nick Van Eck
The Desk Episode 1
Nick Van Eck, CEO of Agora, explains on The Desk how stablecoins are disrupting traditional banking: banks pay almost nothing on checking accounts while capturing the Fed funds rate, eroding 40% of purchasing power over 20 years. Agora offers yield backed by T-bills via AUSD, is pursuing a federal banking license, and projects the stablecoin market will grow from $300B to $1T.

How Banks Earn 5% of Your Cash and Pay You Zero with Nick Van Eck
The Desk Episode 1
Nick Van Eck, CEO of Agora, explains on The Desk how stablecoins are disrupting traditional banking: banks pay almost nothing on checking accounts while capturing the Fed funds rate, eroding 40% of purchasing power over 20 years. Agora offers yield backed by T-bills via AUSD, is pursuing a federal banking license, and projects the stablecoin market will grow from $300B to $1T.

How Banks Earn 5% of Your Cash and Pay You Zero with Nick Van Eck
The Desk Episode 1
Nick Van Eck, CEO of Agora, explains on The Desk how stablecoins are disrupting traditional banking: banks pay almost nothing on checking accounts while capturing the Fed funds rate, eroding 40% of purchasing power over 20 years. Agora offers yield backed by T-bills via AUSD, is pursuing a federal banking license, and projects the stablecoin market will grow from $300B to $1T.

Why Nobody's Talking About Price with Scott Melker
The Crypto Tape Episode 38
Scott Melker joins Frank Chaparro to discuss the CLARITY Act's coin-flip odds, the ethics debate around presidential crypto involvement, and how Trump's meme coin reshaped it. He also explains why price talk has faded at institutional events, where "adoption" has meant retail products rather than firms buying tokens for themselves, and reflects on his shift toward a more measured voice bridging crypto and TradFi.

Why Nobody's Talking About Price with Scott Melker
The Crypto Tape Episode 38
Scott Melker joins Frank Chaparro to discuss the CLARITY Act's coin-flip odds, the ethics debate around presidential crypto involvement, and how Trump's meme coin reshaped it. He also explains why price talk has faded at institutional events, where "adoption" has meant retail products rather than firms buying tokens for themselves, and reflects on his shift toward a more measured voice bridging crypto and TradFi.

Why Nobody's Talking About Price with Scott Melker
The Crypto Tape Episode 38
Scott Melker joins Frank Chaparro to discuss the CLARITY Act's coin-flip odds, the ethics debate around presidential crypto involvement, and how Trump's meme coin reshaped it. He also explains why price talk has faded at institutional events, where "adoption" has meant retail products rather than firms buying tokens for themselves, and reflects on his shift toward a more measured voice bridging crypto and TradFi.

Doing Treasuries Right with Joseph Chalom
The Crypto Tape Episode 37
Joseph Chalom, co-CEO of SharpLink and 20-year BlackRock veteran, joins Frank Chaparro to break down what makes a digital asset treasury work. He explains why ETH's yield-bearing nature flips the treasury model, makes the case for Ethereum against its critics, and details the newly announced ETH Labs and its institutional roadmap.

Doing Treasuries Right with Joseph Chalom
The Crypto Tape Episode 37
Joseph Chalom, co-CEO of SharpLink and 20-year BlackRock veteran, joins Frank Chaparro to break down what makes a digital asset treasury work. He explains why ETH's yield-bearing nature flips the treasury model, makes the case for Ethereum against its critics, and details the newly announced ETH Labs and its institutional roadmap.

Doing Treasuries Right with Joseph Chalom
The Crypto Tape Episode 37
Joseph Chalom, co-CEO of SharpLink and 20-year BlackRock veteran, joins Frank Chaparro to break down what makes a digital asset treasury work. He explains why ETH's yield-bearing nature flips the treasury model, makes the case for Ethereum against its critics, and details the newly announced ETH Labs and its institutional roadmap.

Retail is Now Driving Markets and Every Trade is Public with Paul Erlanger
The Crypto Tape Episode 36
Paul Erlanger, co-founder of FOMO, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss building a social trading app where every position win or loss is visible to everyone. Fresh off a $75 million Series B, Paul makes the case that retail now drives markets, that radical transparency changes what it means to follow smart money, and why giving users access to everything onchain from day one beats the old model of listing assets one at a time.

Retail is Now Driving Markets and Every Trade is Public with Paul Erlanger
The Crypto Tape Episode 36
Paul Erlanger, co-founder of FOMO, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss building a social trading app where every position win or loss is visible to everyone. Fresh off a $75 million Series B, Paul makes the case that retail now drives markets, that radical transparency changes what it means to follow smart money, and why giving users access to everything onchain from day one beats the old model of listing assets one at a time.

Retail is Now Driving Markets and Every Trade is Public with Paul Erlanger
The Crypto Tape Episode 36
Paul Erlanger, co-founder of FOMO, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss building a social trading app where every position win or loss is visible to everyone. Fresh off a $75 million Series B, Paul makes the case that retail now drives markets, that radical transparency changes what it means to follow smart money, and why giving users access to everything onchain from day one beats the old model of listing assets one at a time.

John D'Agostino on Why Crypto Is Panicked, Not Apathetic
The Crypto Tape Episode 35
John D'Agostino, Head of Strategy at Coinbase, joins Frank Chaparro to unpack the next phase of crypto market structure — tokenized equities, prediction markets, and the shift toward a 24/7 "everything exchange." He explains why current market panic is historically a buying signal, and why a unified asset platform makes lending safer.

John D'Agostino on Why Crypto Is Panicked, Not Apathetic
The Crypto Tape Episode 35
John D'Agostino, Head of Strategy at Coinbase, joins Frank Chaparro to unpack the next phase of crypto market structure — tokenized equities, prediction markets, and the shift toward a 24/7 "everything exchange." He explains why current market panic is historically a buying signal, and why a unified asset platform makes lending safer.

John D'Agostino on Why Crypto Is Panicked, Not Apathetic
The Crypto Tape Episode 35
John D'Agostino, Head of Strategy at Coinbase, joins Frank Chaparro to unpack the next phase of crypto market structure — tokenized equities, prediction markets, and the shift toward a 24/7 "everything exchange." He explains why current market panic is historically a buying signal, and why a unified asset platform makes lending safer.


